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Molly Gilmartin counters, saying Superintendent Anne Wilson did not respond to a letter the day it was written asking for a meeting over the dismissal of teacher Janice Donahue.
3:05 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Time for reform.
3:18 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Joanne, I was at the meeting as well and although you are correct that the agenda was off, the public comments continued until there was not anyone else who wanted to speak. When someone in the audience expressed concern that he was ending Public Comments, Mr. Robison asked if that person or anyone else wanted to speak, but no one did. There is plenty to be angry about, but everyone who was there at 9:40 got a chance to speak. Totally understand all the parents’ frustration; I just don't want it to look like one side is bending the facts to gain public sympathy.
3:48 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Well there were people who entered at about 9:40 after comments were shut down- they believed comments started at 9:30. Yes they did want to speak but at that point it was too late. The point being- they should have waited until 9:30 to start comments! I am NOT bending the facts Mr Curry! I take offense to that! Had you moved about the room when the recess was called maybe then you would understnad my point!!
4:44 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Hi Joanne, I'm sorry I offended you, that was not my intention. Even though I do not have children in that class, I showed up to support the parents that I know who do. I cannot fathom the level of frustration they have with the situation. I think the whole thing has been handled horribly from start to finish. Again, I apologize if I offended you.
6:13 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
@ Mike Curry- I mean no disrespect what so ever, But this has been the norm at the last 3 mtgs. They (SPSC) shut down comments even when more people want to speak-
5:25 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
This just in: our wonderful school committee, administration & other leadership are putting the screws to our teachers now on their contract. It looks like they might just have no other option than to strike. First their have the GIC plan stuck down their throats and now it looks like the "town's" negotiation team is so far apart from our teachers that the teacher's will not have a contract. This on the heels of the letter I just received from the "school committee" setting forth their undying support for Anne Wilson. Instead of spending OUR money our legal fees and new furniture for Anne Wilson they should be focused on working with our teachers to provide them the best environment working conditions and salary to teach our children!
6:52 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Andy G. can you please state how you have all of this information? What letter did you receive about undying support for Anne Wilson? Where did you hear about the teacher contract and them striking? If these are facts and not rumors, I think you should share how you received your information so any future articles can be correct.
Well this starts to fill in some missing blanks, Andy G - thank you. No wonder the SPSC and Wilson are so cavalier and smug in their treatment of upset kids and parents. They have a much bigger target in mind - our teachers! This is so infuriating!!! Why aren't more people up in arms!!?? All I can think is that alot of Sudbury is sitting on the sidelines thinking this is a "Noyes problem" or "I don't know all the facts so I'm staying out of it." WAKE UP!!!!! That brave and persistent group of parents have been warning all of us that our schools are being run by a an imcompetent and dishonest Superintendent and an out-of-touch SPS Committee.
OH my head!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anne (Shifty) needs to go!
7:09 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Our kids and teachers were at Noyes all day today with no A/C.....every hour already spent on Dr. Wilson's boston lawyer would have bought air conditioning for several rooms....although even better to spend it adding some new sections to the over the population limit classrooms I heard about at some of the other Sudbury elementary schools.
7:13 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
The letter was sent to ALL parents on Constant Contact, but is too big to include here. As far as the other information goes, I was outside at Curtis earlier with one of my children when the union was meeting and two more senior teachers I know who left a little early and they were absolutely irate and I could here them discussing what little options they have. That is where I got the information...we now have three REAL PROBLEMS: A useless Superintendent, teachers possibly walking in the fall and two very troublesome Selectmen.
7:51 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Ummm, "Noyes Parent" - every family at Noyes and probably the other schools received an email from the school committee this afternoon voicing their "unreserved support" for Wilson. This was a slap in the face to every family, student and staff member who has suffered through the last few months of her mismanagement. Also, "Noyes Parent" - it clearly states on the SPSC Meeting Agendas that they have been going into Executive Sessions to discuss contracts and collective bargaining. Further, thanks to all the inquiries about her activities and management mishaps, Wilson was forced to release all of the details re: the many lawyers (I believe 3 separate firms) she has hired to help with litigation, collective bargaining etc. This info. is very available. I'd be pretty ticked if I were a teacher (possibly teaching an oversized class) seeing how happy she is to run up legal bills and then have her try to stiff me. I truly hope that's not the case.
The SPSC and superintendant won't address the concerns of a group of hundreds of citizens, discounts their first hand experiences as a "partial truth," yet refuses to share any other information that would explain their extreme actions. They spend taxpayer money on a high priced boston lawyer of their choice, to defend their questionable actions which deeply offend the morals of a group of hundreds of residents. These officials all are supposed to represent us. The tail is, proudly, wagging the dog.
This is familiar:
taxation, without representation.
7:53 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I challenge the superintendant, principal and vice principal, and each member of the school committee, to convince us that all of our hundreds of various first hand experiences....witnessed over decades with this teacher..... would mean the opposite of what they appear to mean when weighed with your information.
I challenge these officials, elected or paid to represent the citizens, to convince me that this 67 year old beloved teacher committed such a heinous act that she had to be dismissed immediately, a few weeks before school's end, even though the school did not file a 51A complaint until weeks later, just hours after the situation was revealed by a patch article. That her room had to be cleared out of her decades of comforting furnishing, leaving a foreign room for these kids, and a substitute teacher. Since the 51A was subsequently not supported by the DCF, please convince us that even though the DCF dismissed the complaint, that the act...complained about by one person..... was worth firing a treasured veteran teacher, yet not worth a timely report, and not considered important by the DCF. If you must place a gag order on this teacher, then convince us that she will be receiving her full benefits and pension, and give the settlement she has earned instead of spending the children's money on a fancy lawyer to strip her of her benefits and to defend your autocratic, suspicious-appearing, and high-stakes, high-impact actions.
8:31 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
Well said 2Labs!!! well said!!!
8:56 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I have nothing to lose now by meeting you "noyes parent" Annette Doyle is already punishing me and my child for defending Mrs J-
10:08 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
I don't know what your issues are with me asking Andy G. simple questions. My questions had nothing to do with whatever punishment you think you are receiving from anyone in the school system. I never asked you to meet me and don't know where you got the impression that I did.
I have to agree with Andy's comment below...You are not helping the situations (including your own and your child's) by making these accusations online for everyone to see. I hope you can take a step back, take a breath and re-focus on how the community as a whole can send a message to those that owe Sudbury parents some answers,
Joanne, while if you are correct about "Noyes Parent" and would have every right to be upset with him or her, I think we are all better served if we stay focused on the real issue: The poorly thought out and selfish actions of our administrators and leadership. If we allow ourselves to start slinging mud at each other we lose credibility. So when it comes time to seek real action, the majority of the population in the middle will not listen. By keeping as factual as well can and focusing on Wilson, the school committee and O'Brien and Drobinksi we can actually accomplish something and bring the "majority middle" over to support us.
Thank you Andy G. I hadn't seen that email and hadn't heard about a meeting at Curtis.
Ok I am not slinging mud! DO NOT ACCUSE of such! I am focused on the issue at hand! I am currently being PUNISHED as my child for showing support for Mrs J!
11:05 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012
This isn't about speaking your mind...this about handling it in a way that is non-detrimental to the cause and not putting your child in an even worse situation than you already claim to be in.
Next time I will ask permission before I speak my mind-
OK this is lower case Noyes parent......just exactly how is Ms Doyle punishing you and your child???......I am not the upper case Noyes parent
10:28 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
Don't blame the teachers, don't blame the school committees on Union negotiation issues, or salary issues, or even benefit issues, this falls directly at the doorstep of the taxpayer. If Sudbury cannot pass overrides, everything must be cut. You may dispute this and cry foul, but in the end, taxpayers rule the purse.
12:11 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
SPS schools suffer because of the way our town leaders handle the budget approval process. SPS suffers because of the master limiting motion process at Town Meeting. If SPS, and the other two legal entites (the Town and LS), budgets were voted seperately, SPS would be better off because of its previous record of trying to be proactive in managing costs in a difficult economy, the willingness of the SPS teachers to be part of the solution, the highly favorable academic record of SPS students compared to peers, and favorable cost per student compared to peers. As long as we continue to vote the budget under a master limiting motion, SPS will suffer. Under the master limiting motion process, you can't just vote for an override type of increase at SPS, you also have to vote it for the other two legal entities, whether you think they need it or not. If you don't think the Town or LS need override level budget increases, but SPS does, you have to vote against an override, and SPS suffers. Forget about trying to introduce a motion to amend budgets and move money from the other legal entity budgets to SPS. I've tried that three times.
2:34 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012
Bob, please do not lash out at Jonathan whether or not he is a teacher. To tell our teachers if they don't like it LEAVE is not a solution. Jonathan for the record, I have not heard anyone blame the teachers for anything, so you need not make any statements whereby you lump teachers with administration or school committee. I feel for our teachers, many of whom now feel they lack a great deal of job security based on recent events-in spite of being tenured. Quite frankly if they had no other recourse than to strike under their current union rules, I would support them 100%.
Both Bob and Jonathan are right in certain respects but not in others and like I have said all along, we need to look at ourselves as well in terms of taking some blame for this situation. Staying on point relative to teachers, certainly there are some who are replaceable (like any profession), but there are many others who are just as much a part of this community as you and I and they deserve a fair shake and to be treated in a manner similar to their peers in other like towns. I am sure have been a few teachers who DID not take positions in Sudbury because the pay was 10-15% lower. As far as other applicants of course there are many who apply, but a significantly high percentage of them are probably not great either. Again the foci or blame is not being placed on our teachers, rather the "tweeners" who they work for and in turn who work for us i.e.: ADMINISTRATION, SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND SELECTMEN.
10:35 am on Friday, June 22, 2012
Actually Jonathan you are right about one thing: you can blame the taxpayers, but not for our failure to pass overrides, but for our failure at the polls to understand exactly who we are voting for. Other towns are struggling as well, but their leadership is cooperative and engaging. Yes we failed, but not because of the overrides, but because we either chose the wrong leadership or alternatively allowed others to do so by not participating.
Yet again, Go Andy G! I also agree that too many of us (myself certainly included) have been guilty of apathy about elections & town politics. I see the common thread thru all of the current Sudbury issues as a frustration with leaders and committees feeling that they do not have to respond to taxpayers in a proactive, respectful, and thoughtful manner. The first thing I will look for in every candidate from now on is a firm committment to transparency and back and forth dialogue with residents.
And by the way, no matter where you stand on an override for the schools are, the reason they are not passing is because there has yet to be a convincing argument made to enough people to make one. If there truly needs to be one, I don't think we have any leaders in place with that type of credibility or skill set of persuasion at this point.
I also want to add that it gives me a pit in my stomach that Wilson and this current SPSC, who are incapable of saying something as simple and reassuring as "some things could have been handled better and we will work hard to improve matters," are negotiating contracts with the teachers.
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