The recent back and forth between residents Bob Stein and Mark Kablack highlights how our town government doesn't always work for us.
Three weeks ago, resident Bob Stein wrote a letter to the editor describing how he was perplexed at many of the workings of town government. Specifically, he wrote how he was “perplexed as to why ….. our town planner, is allowed to use her office and town resources to create and distribute pro-40B campaign propaganda during business hours while being paid as our town planner. “
Mr. Kablack responded in the Town Crier. His letter highlights, in my opinion, just show our town government does not always work in the interests of Sudbury citizens.
First some background.
Mr. Stein’s comments, I believe, relate to actions taken by our town planning department during a 2010 ballot initiative to repeal 40B statewide. 40B is the state’s pro-developer, high density housing law that overrides local zoning laws and robs property owners of their rights as long as just 25% of the units in a development are affordable. Others might describe it differently.
In the November 2010 statewide election, opponents of 40B had collected sufficient citizen signatures to get a repeal initiative on the ballot. Many of us in town worked to try to repeal 40B by supporting this ballot initiative. We succeeded in Sudbury, where the measure to repeal passed by 51 to 49%. Unfortunately statewide, the measure did not pass.
State politics are tough. Opposition to repealing 40B was expected from deep pocketed developers, real estate interests and the politicians whose campaigns they supported. But during the campaign to repeal 40B, I discovered that my own town government and employees were using town resources and town time to defeat the repeal of 40B.
Specifically, the town’s email system was being used by a town employee to send flyers for a pro-40B “information session” sponsored by the League of Women voters. The League was hardly a disinterested third party in this case, as they had actively taken a pro-40B position and their “information session” was a collection of speeches by pro-40B proponents.
In addition to the town planning department, the Sudbury Housing Trust which works with our planning department and which has a selectman on the board, had also taken a very public position against the repeal of 40B. The Sudbury Housing Trust (SHT) is a quasi-government agency supported by our CPA funds. Other town citizens objected to SHT getting involved in the ballot initiative and appealed to our Board of Selectmen for assistance without success.
Had we succeeded in repealing 40B in 2010, Johnson Farm would not have been possible.
Now back to Mr. Kablack’s letter. Apparently, Mr. Kablack feels that Mr. Stein was misleading the town since “he should have qualified that the material distributed (by town employees) was a meeting notice from the Wayland League of Women Voters. “
This is exactly the same position that Selectmen Drobinski took with me when I confronted the Board of Selectmen (BOS) with this issue two years ago.
So in our town, according to the BOS, as long as political activity is connected to the League of Women voters, then it is OK for town employees during business hours to use town resources to promote these events.
The Massachusetts league of women voters has public positions on reproductive rights, anti-casino gambling and access to public defenders among many other position statements. Does Mr. Kablack and the BOS really believe town employees can advocate for these positions with town resources?
Our town government needs to work for us and not outside interests. Our town employees are hard working and dedicated to the town. But when their management chain up to the Board of Selectmen allows them to advocate for political positions, this is not only inappropriate, but a failure of the town’s leadership to curb such activity.
In this particular instance, political activity also corrodes the trust between the town and its citizens. It is a difficult to believe on one hand that the town did everything it could to prevent Johnson Farm, when on the other hand, we see town departments advocating for the very law that enabled 40Bs like Johnson Farm to be built.
Far from being an extremist birther as Mr. Kablack suggests, Mr. Steins’ comments were right on track. We should all be perplexed when we see town employees engaging in political activity using town resources during working hours. It is time our local government works for us, all the time.
sudburycitizentoo
8:03 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Wow. Just because Lavendergate is against something then everything is broken. Stein is a loose canon and belongs in a special place where he is taught how to play well with others.
sudburycitizentoo
11:42 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Guess what! Some people stay anonymous because they want the message to matter, not the messenger. You are a child who needs to be the center of attention wherever you go. No one cares where you live or what your phone number is so why do you beg for people to discuss things with you. LOL to the hand.
Ralph Furley
12:54 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Bob, sudburycitizentoo is Kirsten Vandjik.
sudburycitizentoo
1:04 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Or maybe Lisa Gutch. Or maybe Jack Ryan. Or maybe not. Kirsten Vandijk works for today.
Ralph Furley
3:47 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
No Kirsten, it's you. It's the same writing style and the fact that you continue to comment on EVERYTHING within split seconds of things being posted. You can't stay off these blogs.
sudburycitizentoo
3:59 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Oh you got me. Now I can be me! LOL. Are you going to let Kirsten know about our secret? LOL Get a life. You would think we should make shoban happy and write a book. Yeah, I looked her up too!
pmotw
9:03 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Fantastic letter Mr. Semple. It still bothers me CPA funds are used for housing. When the CPA question was on the ballot it was presented as a means to preserve open space and it won by a slim margin. Since it was voted on, the intended use of the funds changed. This means the current operations of the CPA is NOT what was voted on. I believe a majority of the people who voted for the CPA surcharge tax trusted the funds would be used to preserve open space and prevent development of open lands such as farms. Now the funds are used for the opposite reason to builds homes and many other projects that do NOT preserve open land. Some, if not all, farms preserved are being used to subsidize farming and as far as I know, the town receives nothing in return from the farmers that use these lands. In addition, the promised amount of matching funds from the State gets smaller every year. The CPA surcharge tax needs to be on the ballot again and presented fairly to the voters.
Eric Poch
12:17 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
pmotw - Could you please give specific examples of how or where CPA funds were diverted from the original appropriation classification to another, of different classificaiton or especially unrelated one?
pmotw
3:38 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Part 1:
This is a complicate subject and will require more than one posting……
Here are some CPA projects I question;
Artificial turf for LS and Cuttings Field
Town hall architectural and design study
Install a fire suppression system at the Hosmer House
Restore timbers and wooden gate at the Town Pound
Survey no less than 10 Old Homes as directed by the Massachusetts Historical Commission*
Town center landscaping restoration
Sudbury housing trust 10% allocation
Sudbury housing authority unit buy-down
Asphalt sidewalks and construction of stone walls
Preservation of old documents
Restoration of cemeteries, town owned buildings and other properties
Funding for an asphalt bike path study
Numerous Preservation Restrictions**
Housing
Salaries (administrative and operational expenses of the CPC)
Many of the above maintenance and other project should fall under the responsibility of the town budget. Not surcharged tax dollars intended for saving open land.
pmotw
3:40 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Part 2:
*Who gave the Massachusetts Historical Commission authority on how our surcharged tax dollars are spent?
**The Preservation Restriction projects costs millions to prevent property owners from developing their own land such as farms. The town doesn’t own it, but legally is blocking development of the property in most cases. To me this is one of the biggest financial scams going on in town. Property owners threaten to develop land, the town gives them millions to leave it (or have limited development) and the owners still own the land. I’m not sure they pay taxes, but I do know local farmers are using these fields for profit. It’s unknown if the town receives any revenue for allowing farmers use these preserved and purchased properties.
The CPA has very little accountability, if any. It’s obvious based on the projects they have run away with.
Matching funds by the State are not what was promised. Every year the percentage drops.
Some of the open space such has Landham Road and the Johnson Farm has been or is slated to be developed with dense residential housing. How ironic is this? This is the land we should be saving. We are surcharged a tax to preserve open space, the CPA failed with these two properties and now builders are adding homes that will demand an increase in town services (schools) and our normal taxes will increase. Talk about abusing tax dollars.
pmotw
3:41 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Part 3:
The sad thing is most taxpayers trust the CPA and have no clue what their tax dollars are paying for.
These are mostly all wonderful things, but these funds were not originally intended for most of them. Some of these nice to do things used to get done with donations from people who could afford to help out. Now they are being done with surcharge taxes forced on every resident.
I wish I had access to the wording of the original ballot question. I’m pretty sure it did not include so many projects other than preserving open space.
Put the CPA tax Surcharge on the ballot again and let the PEOPLE decide. If there is so much confidence the CPA is worth the extra tax and has the support from the majority of the town, then there is nothing to fear by putting it on the ballot again.
Eric Poch
6:30 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
pmotw - With all due respect, it seems you're generally opposed to the CPA, which you are certainly entitled to be, but I was under the impression that you had specific reference to a misappropriation of funds. However, there is no particular example.
It also appears that you might be unclear that the CPA is NOT soley for the purpose of preserving Open Space. In fact, the act has is intended to meet FOUR distinct purposeS, using the appropriated and state matched CPA funds:
[The CPC shall make recommendations to TM for 1-the acquisition, creation, and preservation of open space; 2-the acquisition and preservation of historic resources; 3-the acquisition creation, and preservation of land for recreational use; 4-the creation, preservation, and support of community housing; and for rehabilitation or restoration of same, as provided in MGL Chapter 44B.].
As for farms and the towns right to first refusal relative to tax exemption, that is covered under MGL 61A.
And without mixing too many apples and oranges, Conservation Restrictions do make very sound economic sense - longer term. If the avg. single family house has 2.5 kids at a cost of $15k/yr each to educate ($37.5k), but only generates $15k in taxes, we could spend $100K/acre to by land and it's paid back in 5 years, vesus loosing $22.5k/year in cost versus taxes.
Sudbury Citizen
6:44 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Eric, now I know why people think less of you.
pmotw
10:18 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Mr. Poch,
Years ago we were asked frequently to approve overrides for the town to purchase priorities to “preserve” them. I’m all for that and understand the development implications to town services as I had mentioned. After several overrides, the CPA appeared to be a better solution to purchase these properties to avoid permanent tax increase every time a parcel became available and I voted for the CPA. I was not alone in believing these funds would be utilized only to purchase “open space” as it was presented. Since then the rules, sate contributions and practices have changed. What the CPA does now is not what I voted for.
Having farmers use this land is an excellent idea. However, it should not be for free and the towns’ stockholders deserve a return on their investment if these properties are used for the profit of others. Sudbury should not be in the business of subsidizing private businesses as it appears it is.
The accountability of these millions is limited. I’d like to see the CPA question on the ballot every year. It would be one way to implement more accountability. If it is an effective method of Community Preservation, it will pass.
Eric Poch
10:41 am on Friday, November 30, 2012
Interesting teaser, "Sudbury Citizen", I'll bite - why?
JJoseph
9:06 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Sudburycitizentoo,
Why don't you share with us what you believe is not broken.
We have Kablacks conflicts
SPS school committee ignoring people
we have e-mail campaign smears using school lists
we have after hour parties with the liquor license board in attendance
we have OUI incidents w/ a town employee and a failed attempt to cover it up
we have LS hiding override money in postage meters
we have sweet contracts for town manager and town counsel renewed well before expiration just before an election
we have 2 Selectmen that now pass over a 3rd for chair rotation
we have citizens living tax free in town owned property
we have the budget completely changed an hour before town meeting
we have an ineffective board of selectmen
we have 2 school superintendents and full staffs
we have a school sup that was just given a brand new contract on early renewal with a salary increase even though there is a petition of no confidence with 200 signatures
Sudbury is unfarily paying more for LS than Lincoln
We have a LS school committee wh is dominated by Lincoln
we have a pro 40B leadership even with the Sudbury people voting against it
we have the Chair of the BOS arguing against the will of the people in Sudbury on Beacon Hill
we have elected officials that are unable to gather support for overrides
Other than these couple of things, everything in Sudbury is running very smoothly.
Sudbury Citizen
9:11 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Their is over 100 more things you forgot JJoseph but we don't want to expose all the town employees and volunteers in town now. It's the holiday season. We will do it in January.
pmotw
10:37 am on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Also, we need a permanent tax override every time the town is incapable of financially planning for expected expenses.
pmotw
1:05 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
In response to various Town Meeting comments; The Town Meeting is beyond it’s time of being a fair and effective representation of the majority. Important articles should be voted on during a regular scheduled election day. Counting on an organized group to stack the Town Meeting is no real form of justice either way. In this most recent situation, the overwhelmingly number of attendee’s were people who were frustrated with the management of Sudbury. Perhaps, they are/were the silent majority. This time, these people went out of their way to fit the meeting into their schedules, make arrangements for sitters or simply to get a ride. The message was clear the majority of residents are disgusted with many of the town decisions being made. This time, the 3-5 Selectmen article was voted in approval. Other times there have been articles voted on that have a direct impact on the finances of the taxpayer or their neighborhood. It’s unjust to continue using the Town Meeting as a venue to see which group can show up in the larger number. Plus, there are 12,426 registered voters in Sudbury. It’s obvious the planners of the Town Meeting do not expect every registered voter to attend. Sudbury doesn’t have a facility large enough. What would happen if 50% showed? Not even Moderator Myron Fox could moderate 6,000 people.
Eric Poch
12:19 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
I'd have to agree, that TM seems to fully support open discourse well, but does Town residents a disservice in terms of both efficiency and effectivenets of the actual voting and providing for fair representation in the ballot. I fear Representative TM makes the waters all the more muddy, however.
pmotw
1:06 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
pmotw thoughts continued....
If residents are bound to the traditions of a Town Meeting, then let it just be a FAIR presentation of articles with a question and answer sessions only. Voter turnout at the polls is always larger than the Town Meeting turnout. Give the majority a fair opportunity to be heard at the polls at their own convenient time of the day and not a fixed time in the evening.
Finally, special elections and special Town Meetings are becoming too frequent. It’s not reasonable to assume the average resident is always aware of the next special election/meeting or what they are about. I have not witnessed one election/meeting that could not wait a few months till the next scheduled election/meeting. These special election/meetings can be perceived as a venue to get articles passed without the approval of the majority. In addition, they have a financial impact on the towns’ budget.
sudburycitizentoo
2:13 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Just what I and others said in August--different names tho.
pmotw
2:46 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
I have been in favor of changing the Town Meeting for over 10 years. The more on board the better!
Pat Brown
3:24 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
I understand that many people would prefer their government to operate silently and effectively, and not to have special elections or, more disruptively, special town meetings which consume entire evenings.
However, the September 24 special town meeting was required by the petition with over 200 valid signatures, as per MGL Chapter 39 Section 10.
Even without that petition, there would have been a special town meeting this winter sometime to vote on the Nixon roof proposal. The grant we are seeking for the Nixon roof from the Mass School Building Authority (MSBA) requires approval at both Town Meeting and an election. This was discussed in the warrant article 1 of the Special Town Meeting. To make the deadlines, these approvals had to occur prior to the 2013 election and town meeting.
We can debate whether Sudbury should move from Open Town Meeting to a Representative Town Meeting, but either way it won't remove the need for special town meetings and special elections.
sudburycitizentoo
3:34 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
You can't say that we just want things quiet and effective because you don't know what we want. Let's vote on that.
pmotw
4:04 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Re: Ms. Brown;
Thanks for bringing up the Nixon roof. Question 1 reads as follows;
Shall the Town of Sudbury be allowed to be exempt from the provisions of Proposition two and one-half, so called, the amounts required to pay for the bonds issued in order to remodel, reconstruct, or make extraordinary repairs consisting of partial roof repair/replacement at the General John Nixon Elementary School at 472 Concord Road, including the payment of all costs incidental or related thereto?
Are we voting for a blank check and an unknown permanent override increase on our taxes? How does a question like this get on a ballot without any details? I can’t imagine any responsible individual voting for this.
Again, why can’t the town plan for these projects and stop with the requests for permanent tax increases?
Pat Brown
5:19 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
There's a discussion of the ballot questions in the warrant. In addition to the ballot question, there is a summary which includes the amounts under consideration, an argument in support and an argument in opposition.
You should have received a paper warrant mailed to your voting address. It's also available on the town website here: http://www.town.sudbury.ma.us/departments/Selectmen/doc8153/2012STEWarrant.pdf
Last ditch, there is a copy of the warrant posted outside the polling place when you go to vote--but I like to take a bit more time to consider the question than that.
pmotw
7:11 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Thank you for the link. I feel a "Yes" vote for ballot question 1 would be sending the wrong message to the people who manage our town. A "No" vote will send a clear message to our town officials the people demand they live within the means of the budget and plan accordingly. There is always a catch like state funds, but this is how we can get in further financial trouble. It's not free. If we had better town planning we would not be voting on this. Voting "No" on Question #1.
Eric Poch
5:54 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Bryan, frustration one would have if such an event took place and was endorsed by Town government is understandable. But if you refer to the Dec.2010 Housing roundtable, I'm not certain your characterization is completely accurate. That WAS an information session, but hardly a marketing event to promote 40B development. Rather, it was a inter-board/committee communication event, shared with the public for the purpose of discussing current development activity, (the Housing Production plan, impending 40B and Sub-division developments) as well as other legislative tools and financial incentives used as options to further diversify towns' housing stock. Participants included people from the following: the Boards of Appeals, Selectmen & Planning, Community Preservation Cmte, Sudbury Housing Auth., Sudbury Housing Trust, Invited Guests, and the Public. I know because I attended the session, as then Vice Chair of the Planning Board, and worked side-by-side in a group with Selectman Haarde.
I think it's important to note that while as individuals, people may have (and certainly are entitled to) their own personal opinions regarding proposed legislation, reforms and voting, that should not influence their ability to discuss the pros and cons for and against. As Boards and Committees, (save the BOS) such endorsements don't generally occur, however. I'm not a fan and have never supported 40B, as an individual, but as a Board member, I couldn't just ignore it - like it or not.
Bryan S
7:16 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Eric thanks for the comments.
The post above contains a link to the original email and flyer promoting the pro-40B session and it was not the December session you reference. Rather, this session was held in October and was entitled "Information Meeting, November Ballot Question 2".
It was far from an information session.
The link from the posting above is copied below:
http://sudburyvision.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-your-town-government
Eric Poch
12:21 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Thanks, Bryan, I'll check it out.
Sudburytoo
7:02 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Eric,
First, I always respect your opinion, your approach and your efforts for Sudbury. However, to even infer the anything put on by the Sudbury League of Women Voters is not a 100% Democrat agenda is inaccurate. The LWV is so biased towards Democratic ideals they can't even bring themselves to see an Independent or Republican point of view. They are extremely one sided.
By the way, I am unenrolled and usually vote Democrat but the Sudbury Leauge of Women Voters turns me off because of their one sided viewpoint. They are The Fox Channel of the Democrat party for Sudbury.
pmotw
7:23 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
I don't understand the need for people to appeal to comments and respond with which political party they agree with. To me, these issues are about Sudbury and they have nothing to do with being a democrat, republican, independent or a libertarian. It's unnecessary to prove anything about your political party affiliation. It may even further divide people on issues. Save it for the State and National elections.
Eric Poch
12:23 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
COMPLETELY agree - all politics are local, but party affiliation as very little to do with how they impact things in a Town environment - as opposed to a City form of government.
Edward Stark
10:09 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
By the amount of blogging going on here today by a certain somebody would it be fair to say that flower sales are down this holiday season?
Kirsten Vandijk
7:09 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
I find it very offensive that not only do you attack me in my absence but you do not have the basic notion of respect for Freedom of Speech. Perhaps now is a good time for you to put an end to your and other commentator's harassment of the victim of your disrespectful and rancorous behaviour. How very apparent it is that nothing has changed. And I suggest you stop referring to my business. Need you threaten me and others because you have no other means to present an argument? It would benefit everyone if you and others ceased in your immature and vindictive behaviour. It is most unbecoming.
ron darden
9:30 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Kirsten,
I think references to kids are out of line
I think references to one's business or livelihood are out of line, except in cases of real or apparent conflict of interest
But, even if I dont like the general innuendo, I see no specific mention of any particular business and your reaction in a court of law might be admissable as 'consciousness of guilt'
sudburycitizentoo
7:16 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Here comes the pitbulls!LOL
Sudburytoo
9:38 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
sudburycitizentoo,
"Here comes the pitbulls!" Sounds like something the British regulars would say when the Patriots were coming after them. The people of Sudbury have had enough of the few governing for the few.
sudburycitizentoo
10:07 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Get a leash.
truth hurts
12:08 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
I think a muzzle may be required....for sudburycitizentoo. Perhaps a distemper shot too!!
sudburycitizentoo
12:19 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Truth hurts doesn't it!!
truth hurts
12:23 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
I think you have some very serious anger issues- Have you thought about seeing a Dr? Its very sad you feel you need to be so rude and insulting to everyone who posts here- I truly feel sorry for you-
Kyle McCarthy
1:22 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
truth hurts you should actually feel sorry for sudburycitizentoo's family (if he or she even has one), because THEY have to live with him or her...imagine what that would be like EVERYDAY.
SueChap
9:18 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
CPA funds were used to build retainer walls on route 117 for town planner friend on the corner of pantry and 117. These rock walls were retaining 2 inches of sidewalk.
In addition to the sidewalks on 117 which the project was approved (for sidewalks), CPA funds were used to fund corresponding rock walls and fences along route 117 that could also questioned. If the residents complain, Bill Place builds!
Continuing with the 117 project, CPA funds were used to pay a resident to build a wall on his own property!! I was once told that the business the property owner submitted his invoice wasn't a registered business with the state (defaulted) and the invoice was only submitted after someone asked for it. I'm also told that NONE of the 117 project items were bid, rather various invoices submitted on the same or various days for different amounts which at face value appear to be within state procurement regulations. I know who looked at all this and can see if they can be passed to the Patch for coverage. Then others can decide whether or not to continue to defend this cookie jar fund.
The CPA has a good purpose and if used in a balanced way could bring all the good it was intended. It has, however, become a slush fund to gain easy funding approval via town meeting which is easily stacked by our local liberal establishment.
Why can't CPA funds be used to fund the Fairbanks restoration, including roof?
pmotw
10:23 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Great Post SueChap!
I would like to use CPA funds to build a in-ground swimming pool. Does it matter if I already have sidewalks?
pmotw
10:29 am on Thursday, May 23, 2013
re: SueChap
Was there any further findings on the CPA funding of stone walls that appeared to be unnecessary?
SueChap
9:22 pm on Thursday, November 29, 2012
btw, I am perplexed why we have to continue referring to our neighbors and their rancorous behavior. Can we just agree to ban the word!!!
Let's Open our eyes
10:52 am on Friday, November 30, 2012
I'm not an engineer and don't play one on tv so while I don't feel qualified to judge the validity of retaining walls, they are often necessary when sidewalks go in because the topography and runoff characteristics of a property are changed. If there's abuse and patronage being supported by the CPA it should be routed out.
@pmotw - Poch's right on the CPA and CRs. We don't subsidize farmers by allowing them to continue their by right use of the land, but we do avoid significant increase in cost of services by not having develpments built. Who cares about a few hundred bucks we could get for charging them to harvest hay when we stave off loosing $20-25k per house on school costs versus taxes paid to the town.
Sudbury Citizen
11:00 am on Friday, November 30, 2012
Poch is NEVER right on. You are correct on the first part though.
pmotw
7:10 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012
re: "Lets Open our eyes".
Are you eyes open inside or outside the bubble? Guess they were not open when you read my posts. Please explain where I'm wrong. Farmers are using land the town owns or has paid millions to "preserve". Which section of MGL 61A states its fair for taxpayers to support (subsidize) farmers by allowing them to use town own/preserved property at no cost? If this is how it works, I'd like a few acres to grow crops for profit without paying for the use of the land. I will say it again, I'm all for them using the land, but we deserve some revenue in return. I'd be okay with them taking over the burden of financing the CPA.
Let's Open our eyes
3:17 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012
Wow- that's kinda harsh. I'm not interested in promoting any baseless accusations SC - keep me out of your pettiness. I've been in this town for quite a while now and follow event pretty closely. I'd certainly put him in the category of most reasonable town leaders. Most of what I've seen has been well spoken and more importantly, well reasoned and done in public. Unlike a lot of the trash talking that goes on in these news blogs.
Sudbury Citizen
3:25 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012
You don't know him like I do. We've been on the same committee.
sudburycitizentoo
8:59 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012
SC--theres a sale at Petco for leashes.
Kyle McCarthy
7:58 am on Saturday, December 1, 2012
Sudburycitizentoo-be sure to get one for yourself!