Discussion: Who Would You Like to See Run for SPS Committee?

Lisa Gutch is up for re-election, but she hasn't made public whether she plans on running again.

There's no doubt the angst between Sudbury parents and the Sudbury Public Schools Committee after the Janice Donahue saga, and most recently the Peter Fardig resignation.

For months parents have pleaded with Superintendent Anne Wilson and Committee members for clarity:

  • What is the real reason behind Donahue's dismissal?
  • Why were parents lied to about her sudden absence?
  • If no child were in danger, why was Fardig put on paid leave and a 51A filed against him?

The questions go on and on.

And despite an online No Confidence petition against Wilson that has garnered more than 180 signatures, the Committee not only has given her its full support, but it also recently extended her contract and awarded her with a raise.

In just a few short months, Sudbury parents and other residents will have the final say when Annual Town Election takes place. Vice Chair Lisa Gutch is up for re-election, although she hasn't publicly committed to running again.

Whether she decides to run, we're asking you, the Sudbury voter, whom would you like to see in that seat?

Tell us in the comments section below.

sudburycitizentoo November 22, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Lisa Gutch. She works with the Town and not against it.
Ralph Furley November 23, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Assuming you are not being sarcastic, yes Lisa works with the town, which means that she shows no transparency, doesn't listen to a single concern from the parents during major scandals, lauds Anne Wilson for the courage she displayed during the Janice Donahue hearings and talks down to anyone who asks a question (unless of course the person asking the question is from out of town). She is just a nightmare. Not to mention she complains about the Fairbanks roof getting voted down, yet she was the one who made the infamous "this roof is not safe" comment at Town Meeting and immediately got called on it by Bryan Semple and showed everyone at the meeting that was not the case. She has to go.
Joe P November 24, 2012 at 03:46 AM
Well, the way I saw it on Sudbury TV and heard it at Town Meeting was.... 1. Lisa listened to every concerned citizen who spoke at SC meetings. 2. At Town Meeting, Lisa did not say the Fairbank Roof was unsafe. She said she had a concern about it. Bryan Semple (who seems to enjoy writing and blogging about her) said that she said it was unsafe. 3. I have not seen any example of Lisa "talking down" to residents. Ralph, perhaps, you should practice a little transparency yourself.
sudburycitizentoo November 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Well said Joe P
Ralph Furley November 25, 2012 at 12:43 AM
Joe P, 1) If you consider Lisa Gutch texting Myron Fox while Bob Stein was speaking at the SPS meeting akin to listening to "every concerned citizen who spoke at the SC meetings", then I don't know what to say to convince you otherwise 2) Lisa's quote from STM: "I would just like to add that there are a lot of children in that building, and the Park and Rec department runs a preschool, and the teen center is there and maybe 10 or 11 Friday nights during the school year there are hundreds of 7th and 8th graders in there and that roof is in pretty bad shape. I've looked myself internally at it with Jim. So I just have some concerns about kids being in that building with a roof that's failing." So did she say "the roof is not safe?" No. Did she imply that? Absolutely. What were her concerns if not a safety issue? That the leaking water makes too much noise? 3) You say you haven't seen Lisa talking down to residents, and I have. I guess we'll agree to disagree. You're obviously a Lisa Gutch supporter and I'm not. Only the ballot box will tell us what the voters want. Of course we'll just have to wait to see what type of blast email Lisa sends out the night before the election.
Chris E November 25, 2012 at 02:29 AM
You hear yourself, right Ralph? Joe P is right. You just admitted that: 1. Lisa listened to Bob Stein and responded to his disruption of the SC Meeting. I watched that meeting on Sudbury TV. Frankly, that's what I want elected officials to do when someone behaves as Stein (a Fincom member) did in a public meeting. Last I heard, the Town Moderator appoints the Fincom members. 2. At Town Meeting, she said that she is concerned about children who are, at times, in the Fairbank building. And as you admit, she did not say what you or Bryan Semple claimed. It's OK with me that she shows concern for children, especially since she's on the SC for the preschool through 8th grade. Lisa, if you're reading this (or not), I'll contact you to add my address to your distribution list for your next election night email. I'll ask a friend of yours to forward my address to your personal email address. If I agree with your point of view, I'll forward your email to my list.
Ralph Furley November 25, 2012 at 02:56 AM
Lisa did not listen to Bob Stein and then send the email, she sent the email right after he started speaking. I don't know what his "disruption" was - he was speaking as a resident in open forum as many other parents did and as his his right. As for her comments at TM, she expressed concern for the children who are in that building. What is her concern? The roof. Why is she concerned? Because she does not feel that it's safe. Why else would she be concerned? I just think that she doesn't give a damn what the parents think. If you listen to the member forums during the Mrs. J meetings, you will hear Bob Armour talk about how the SPSC needs to have better communication with the parents while you hear Lisa talk about how much courage Anne Wilson showed during the Mrs. J hearings. If that's the type of candidate you want on SPSC, then vote for her. I just want her out. That's my opinion and I will vote against her. I don't expect you to feel the same.
Ralph Furley November 25, 2012 at 03:21 AM
I can't believe I actually started this with a response to sudburycitizentoo. I had forgotten who she was until I went back and read her previous posts. It's a waste of time responding to anything she says.
Chris E November 25, 2012 at 03:54 AM
Your positions are indefensible. You couldn't possibly know if she listened to Bob Stein, yet you claim that she didn't. Saying that he's speaking as a citizen and not as a Fincom member doesn't excuse Bob Stein from being a member of Fincom. He should conduct himself as such. You claim that she doesn't care what parents think. That's not what I observed when I watched those meetings. She looked like she was listening to the parents at every meeting. I'm curious why you singled out Bob Armour. Regardless....I saw what looked like all of the SC members and the superintendent agreeing about communication. It sounds to me Ralph, that you have a strong opinion about someone you don't actually know.
Ralph Furley November 25, 2012 at 04:35 AM
You're right Chris, I don't know her personally. Maybe she's a nice person, and I don't care if she is or not. I just don't want her on SPS. I singled Bob Armour out because he was the only one to say during members forum that he thought there should be better communication between the SPSC and the parents. And he and Lucie St. George were the only two members of SPSC to vote for his motion to let a packed room of parents speak for 15 more minutes during open forum. If Lisa was really interested in what the parents had to say, why did she vote against that motion? (Ditto for Robison and Winer). I take it Lisa is your friend and that's great. I don't like her on SPS and will vote against her. My choice and my opinion. There is no right or wrong here.
Chris E November 25, 2012 at 05:09 AM
There you go again, Ralph. I watched that meeting on Sudbury TV, too. Before the public forum began, the chairman announced that the SC would have to conclude the public forum at 8:25. When it was time to end the public forum, some of the people in attendance asked for more time. So, the SC extended it by another 5 minutes, and after that additional 5 minutes voted unanimously to go to executive session. Then the 2 new members made a motion and voted to let the public forum continue (which had been going on for over half an hour by that time). When the SC came back to the meeting, they voted and opened public forum again for another 15 minutes. Just vote against her if that's what you want to do, but don't make misleading statements.
sudburycitizentoo November 25, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Because what "she" says is true.
Karoles November 25, 2012 at 05:20 PM
It seems that there is an effort to discredit Lisa Gutch, but I notice, that the list I read in another thread has the names of individuals who ran for elected office and lost for some reason. The votes count, people made the decision to send individuals back to their respective seats. So why are certain people continuing to complain that they are somehow right and others wrong? If I heard the word 'agenda' once, I heard it so many times, yet these people say they don't have one? Highly doubtful. Everybody has an agenda, it is just the elected officials made theirs public and got elected/relected for a reason. To discount the votes by the majority is offensive. You need another tactic. The names I saw are the exact names I would never press to elect. I am happy that some are fighting back. It's about time.
sudburycitizentoo November 25, 2012 at 05:32 PM
Sudbury Citizen November 25, 2012 at 06:24 PM
sudburycitizentoo AKA Lisa Gutch, do I say anymore.
Rick Billig November 25, 2012 at 06:37 PM
Sudbury Citizen - does it make you feel more powerful when you post things like that? I assume that must be why you post anonymously. It’s a shame you include Sudbury in your name. Extremely disrespectful to this entire community.
Sudbury Citizen November 25, 2012 at 06:43 PM
Fact # 1 Their is no Rick Billing that lives in Sudbury. Fact # 2 Lisa Gutch is the only disrespectful member of SPS School Committee.
Rick Billig November 25, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Fact #1 Try spelling my name correctly. Fact #2 you will say anything won't you? Fact #3 Try posting under your own name. I'm sure your family would be proud of that.
Sudbury Citizen November 25, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Fact # 3 I can't because was a member of a school committee and know first experience about your friend.
sudburycitizenthree November 25, 2012 at 08:58 PM
I dont know what SC meeting you were at-
sudburycitizenthree November 25, 2012 at 09:00 PM
what she says is pure and simple CRAZY!
sudburycitizenthree November 25, 2012 at 09:02 PM
I agree SC- Ms Gutch needs to be shown the door- perhaps then change for the good will start to happen
sudburycitizenthree November 25, 2012 at 09:03 PM
perhaps you should have attended the mtg in question?! Better still START attending mtgs!
sudburycitizentoo November 25, 2012 at 09:25 PM
Nice inaugural post "sudburycitizenthree". Too many Sudbury citizens here--I can smell your sweat.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ November 26, 2012 at 01:33 AM
I wanna see y'all vote for me. I'll just chill and let all the problems solve themselves. THREE6MAFIAFAN '13
Ralph Furley November 26, 2012 at 03:08 AM
I don't know what misleading statements you are referring to. In fact you are the one with the inaccurate information. There was no vote at 8:25 or 8:30 to extend the open forum for five minutes. At 8:30 Dr. Robison said that they had to adjourn to executive session. A parent then asked if they could extend the open forum for 15 minutes and Robison said no and asked for a motion and a vote to adjourn to executive session. It was then that Bob Armour stepped up, stopped the vote and asked the parents if 15 more minutes (and only 15 more minutes) of open forum would suffice and they applauded in agreement. He made the motion, and Lucie St. George made the second. They then voted, and only Bob and Lucie voted yes while the other three voted against it. And yes, they did vote to have another 15 minute open forum when they came back from executive session - at 10:15 PM. So they made the parents (many who had babysitters at home) wait for almost two hours to continue the open forum rather than getting those 15 minutes out of the way at 8:30. So I will once again ask you my question: If Lisa really cared about what the parents had to say, then why did she not vote to extend open forum for 15 minutes at 8:30 (which would have made it much easier for the room full of parents who wanted to speak)?
Chris E November 26, 2012 at 04:39 AM
Ralph, I didn't say there was a vote at 8:25 to extend the public forum for another 5 minutes. And the Chair set the stage with the public about the open forum before it began. Furthermore, I can't imagine that someone would volunteer to be on the school committee and not care about people. Ralph, I'm starting to think of you as some sort of parrot (no offense to parrots). You say the same things over and over again. Unfortunately, none of it is constructive.
Ralph Furley November 26, 2012 at 05:14 AM
You still haven't specifically answered my question, so I will ask it again. If Lisa really cared about what the parents had to say, then why did she not vote to extend open forum for 15 minutes at 8:30 (which would have made it much easier for the room full of parents who wanted to speak)? And saying " I can't imagine that someone would volunteer to be on the school committee and not care about people." is not an answer to the question.
Chris E November 26, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Great deduction, Ralph. 1+1=5. How about talking with someone to check your assumptions before making accusations about them?
Ralph Furley November 26, 2012 at 03:34 PM
Oh sorry Chris, I thought I asked you for an answer to my question. In case you missed it, I will ask it again: If Lisa really cared about what the parents had to say, then why did she not vote to extend open forum for 15 minutes at 8:30 (which would have made it much easier for the room full of parents who wanted to speak)?


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